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Armed.peasant 09-10-2009 09:52 PM

Camping and Survival Prep
 
I went camping over the 3 day weekend and it hit me that camping is much like survival prep in a short period scale. You load up the truck with what you "think" you need for the trip, everything from food, firestarters, clothes, propane, bug spray and so on and it never fails you forget something.

In camping its no big deal, but in a SHTF time it is a major deal.

moreair 09-10-2009 10:02 PM

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I think camping skills and supplies might come in real handy some day. Just walk through the camping section at a store and it will start to dawn on you real fast.

For example, a camp stove with propane will be nice if utilies go down.

Prospector_X 09-10-2009 10:03 PM

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I have a large plastic bins that has all my gear in it. I just load them up and I'm gone.
Bin 1. Has food stuffs. Propane stove, utensils, pots pans, spices, hatchet, safety bag etc...
Bin 2. Has tent, sleeping gear, some clothes.

SLV>GLD 09-10-2009 10:53 PM

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I go camping a minimum of 4 times a year.
I no longer forget things.
I know all sorts of neat tricks and shortcuts.
I've been trying to get GIM interested in a gathering where we'd all camp somewhere.

Camping is great for something less than a week. Beyond that and you'd best have some skills and tools to make life amenable.

I forgot who, but one of our members left home with the family and lives in a tent on campgrounds. Wonder how that is going, now?

Plastic 09-11-2009 09:19 AM

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I just ordered this book to go with my bugout/camping kit, opinions please.

...

http://ofthefield.com/html/learning_resources_3.html


If you can have only one resource, this is the one to have. Linda Runyon lived off of the land in the wilderness for years, feeding her family with wild edible plants. She has paid her dues and learned the hard way so you don't have to. With this book, you will learn how to see and use the abundance that surrounds us everywhere plants grow. You won't look at the world the same way again, and you will never fear hunger.

The book is 320 jam-packed pages, profusely illustrated by the author. You will learn how to identify, gather, prepare, store and enjoy an endlessly nutritious and renewable resource! The book is full of data, charts, nutritional breakdowns, and a poisonous look-alike section. There are many clear black & white photos as well as line drawings for identification, and when you gather your bounty, there's even tried and tested recipes.

The majority of the plants are found in ALL 50 states, and, indeed, most of the world. A few are unique to the East or the West United States.


more at link.

Canadian-guerilla 09-11-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Plastic (Post 1915543)
I just ordered this book to go with my bugout/camping kit, opinions please.

http://ofthefield.com/html/learning_resources_3.html


Quote:

and a poisonous look-alike section
i like it already, :ok: :ok:


the only book(s) i will take with me when TSHTF are wild edible(s) books
plus my own assortment of pics/drawings of wild edibles

FALL is coming, get out into the bush now and RE/SEARCH


i've been looking forever for this one


http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com...TheForager.jpg

Canadian-guerilla 09-11-2009 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Armed.peasant (Post 1914876)
I went camping over the 3 day weekend and it hit me that camping is much like survival prep in a short period scale. You load up the truck with what you "think" you need for the trip, everything from food, firestarters, clothes, propane, bug spray and so on and it never fails you forget something.

In camping its no big deal, but in a SHTF time it is a major deal.


and don't forget the items that were brought and never used

this could be extra space/weight for more essential items

gunDriller 09-11-2009 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1915021)
I've been trying to get GIM interested in a gathering where we'd all camp somewhere.

can we have a boating accident for entertainment ?

SLV>GLD 09-11-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 1915217)
What is in your BOB SLV.GLD?

Fire creating utensils (matches, striking stone, bic lighters and parafin blocks and candles)
Blades of various design (folding shovel, hatchet, fillet knife, folding knives, folding saw)
High carbohydrate and protein rich foods (bars and beans and an MRE).
Rope, small tarp, needle and nylon thread.
1st aid kit.
Flashlights (headlamp) and batteries.
Gloves Socks Hiking boots
Plastic baggies fork, knife and spoon and can opener and trash bags
Small bills and a roll of quarters.
Some sanitary items (TP, toothbrush, saline, deoderant, soap, washcloth)
Sunscreen and insect repellant and handkerchiefs.
Water tablets and collapsible bottles and cheesecloth.
A stainless, portable coffee press.
A rubber mallet and stakes.
A prepaid phone card.
A solar blanket and a poncho.
An air horn.
A backpack (hehe, seems redundant? well, it is, duh)
A roll of nylon webbing strap and 550 cord and rubber straps with metal hook ends.
Sharpie and paper.
A mushroom field guide.


That's off the top of my head, I suppose I'd have to dig through it for full inventory or think of something I needed and remember it was in there.

I take a hell of a lot more than that when camping, though!
I don't forget anything because I keep bins packed just for it.


Is this one of those questions where you can do a personality analysis by reviewing man's BOB contents? Or maybe you just wanted to tax my memory?

gasilat 09-16-2009 02:55 PM

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I spent about 30 nights this last summer camping out in a tent in the woods soothed by serenade of the hooting owls or under the stars on the beach listening to the surf gently caress the shoreline...it was wonderful...


I'm currently planning my main summer hiking trip for next year...a 72 mile journey through the Kenai mountains on 3 interconnecting trails...a leisurely ten miles a day should be about right...and enjoyable for young and old in the group...from the quaint hamlet of hope, alaska down the resurrection pass trail to the russian river trail to the resurrection river trail to the seaside town of seward, alaska...

c ya on the trail....

Resurrection Pass Trail-North
http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/aktrails.../resurnrth.htm

Resurrection Pass Trail-South
http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/aktrails...n/resursth.htm

Russian Lakes Trail
http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/aktrails.../russianlk.htm

Resurrection River Trail
http://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/aktrails...resurriver.htm

.................

Canadian-guerilla 09-16-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gasilat

c ya on the trail....



ya know you're just torturing us city folks eh

gasilat 09-16-2009 03:26 PM

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haha....

okay this is some of the stuff i came up with for this particular hike, just in case it may be of help to someone else...and this is a pleasure hike for ages 9 to 56 in my group so some of this stuff may not apply to a survival situation...

mind you i pack pretty light, probably 20 pounds is what i will be carrying...and there will be one restocking point about midway when we cross the road...

i have some newbies coming with me so i wrote this up for them
VVV

~ If you watch your ounces, the pounds take care of themselves ~ (gasilat)
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Suggested Adult Backpack List<o:p></o:p>
Backpack<o:p></o:p>
Sleeping Bag<o:p></o:p>
Waterproof container for sleeping bag (garbage sack)<o:p></o:p>
Sleeping Pad<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light Tent or Tarp <o:p></o:p>
Water bottle(s)<o:p></o:p>
Food<o:p></o:p>
Coffee, tea<o:p></o:p>
Extra smartwool socks <o:p></o:p>
Lexan spoon<o:p></o:p>
Small pocket knife<o:p></o:p>
Cooking pot<o:p></o:p>
Drinking cup<o:p></o:p>
Matches, lighter, fire starter <o:p></o:p>
Sealed emergency fire starting kit<o:p></o:p>
Toilet paper<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light raingear (preferred for layering) or poncho<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light long underwear<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light jacket <o:p></o:p>
Hat<o:p></o:p>
Gloves<o:p></o:p>
First aid kit<o:p></o:p>
Personal toiletries (toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, washrag, hand sanitizer, razor, etc.)<o:p></o:p>
Sunglasses (if you wish)
Some aluminum foil (cooking fire wind block, pan lid, fish baking, etc.)<o:p></o:p>
A few plastic zip lock bags (berry picking, kindling collection, garbage, etc.)<o:p></o:p>
The “One of these items is all we need list” (weight can be divided among adults)
<o:p>Cookstove and fuel (amount to be determined by party size)<o:p></o:p></o:p>
Water filtration (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Cell phone (one is all we need)
Bug dope (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Sun blocker (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Small Binoculars (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Camera with extra batteries (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Flashlight (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Parachute cord (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Dishsoap and brush (one is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
Ultralight fishing gear (complete outfit)<o:p></o:p>
Laminated maps of trails (one set is all we need)<o:p></o:p>
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Suggested Child Backpack List <o:p></o:p>
Backpack<o:p></o:p>
Sleeping Bag<o:p></o:p>
Waterproof container for sleeping bag (garbage sack)<o:p></o:p>
Sleeping Pad<o:p></o:p>
Water bottle(s)<o:p></o:p>
Food<o:p></o:p>
Coffee, tea<o:p></o:p>
Extra smartwool socks <o:p></o:p>
Lexan spoon<o:p></o:p>
Small pocket knife<o:p></o:p>
Cooking pot<o:p></o:p>
Drinking cup<o:p></o:p>
Sealed emergency fire starting kit<o:p></o:p>
Toilet paper<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light raingear (for layering) or poncho<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light long underwear<o:p></o:p>
Ultra-light jacket <o:p></o:p>
Hat<o:p></o:p>
Gloves<o:p></o:p>
Personal toiletries (toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, washrag, hand sanitizer)<o:p></o:p>
Sunglasses (if you wish)<o:p></o:p>
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Suggested food list<o:p></o:p>
This has to be lightweight so all suggested meals will all require the addition of water. But hey its your back, pack whatever you wish ! <o:p></o:p>
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Breakfast<o:p></o:p>
High energy bars or build-your-own oatmeal with powdered milk preparation.<o:p></o:p>
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Lunch<o:p></o:p>
Top Ramen or Pasta Slides, Rice Meals<o:p></o:p>
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Dinner<o:p></o:p>
Freeze dried dinners or Pasta Slides, Rice Meals<o:p></o:p>
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Drinks<o:p></o:p>
Coffee or tea bags or ???<o:p></o:p>
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Snacks<o:p></o:p>
Energy bars, gorp, and/or hard candies like butterscotch or peppermints to suck on (last longer). <o:p></o:p>
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Camping Ethics, Suggestions<o:p></o:p>
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Leave no trace hiking and camping.<o:p></o:p>
We will burn all of our trash or pack it out and also pick up after others along the trail. <o:p></o:p>
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Take only photos and leave only footprints.<o:p></o:p>
Well…I guess catching a fish or two would be both cool and tasty ! And yes, we will burn down and dead timber.
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If you are new to backpacking equipment.<o:p></o:p>
Talk to someone with ultra-lightweight backpacking experience before you buy a single piece of gear. <o:p></o:p>
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Foot blisters are not your friend that must and can be avoided.<o:p></o:p>
Hiking with Merrino wool lightweight hiking socks is a good way to prevent blisters. Have an extra pair of them in your pack. Do not wear cotton socks. <o:p></o:p>
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___19868<o:p></o:p>
Your hiking shoes must fit properly, not too snug or your toes will soon be hurting. Do not bring heavy hiking boots as you will not need them and the extra weight is unnecessary and very tiring. <o:p></o:p>
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Unless you hire a porter to accompany you :) plan on carrying your own gear the entire trip.<o:p></o:p>
You will be much more critical about packing what you really need. If you are new to this and carry too much stuff believe me you will drop gear along the trail. So see suggestion below…<o:p></o:p>
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Get into shape somewhat before the trip and test out your gear.<o:p></o:p>
You don’t need to be able to run a marathon, just get your backpack completely loaded with all your gear and go for hikes with it before the trip.<o:p></o:p>
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So its the actual day of the hike and you’re not sure if you’re ready. Its okay, we still love you ! Really !<o:p></o:p>
Ask someone with experience go through your pack before the hike at the trailhead and take out the unnecessary items and make sure you have the stuff you need, and we will share what we have with you. :) <o:p></o:p>

Acr0phobic 09-16-2009 07:28 PM

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Throw a good quality slingshot in there with a wrist support. silent, and good for fun, and hunting small animals. With rocks as ammo, you will never run out. Will also deter any sane minded unarmed person from approaching you if you do not have any other weapons (if you are in canada for example where getting and storing a handgun legally is a ton of red tape).

The good ones can crack a skull they are so powerful. I've had one for years and it's not hard to become a good shot with them.

Avalon 09-19-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1915021)
I go camping a minimum of 4 times a year.
I no longer forget things.
I know all sorts of neat tricks and shortcuts.
I've been trying to get GIM interested in a gathering where we'd all camp somewhere.

Camping is great for something less than a week. Beyond that and you'd best have some skills and tools to make life amenable.

I forgot who, but one of our members left home with the family and lives in a tent on campgrounds. Wonder how that is going, now?

I have just the perfect place... in fact a few of us from the Preparedness group are going up Sat for the day.. Then we will plan a camping trip..Let me know if you can possibly make it. If not this Fall maybe in the spring..


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